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Neptune and Eris cycle through the millennia
planetary cycle sidereal Astrology

For the long term cycles the "differences" between heliocentric and geocentric placements isn't as big - yet, the charts look different.... 


When such major and "outer" forces stand in "alignment" with our ecliptic/path, that has significant changes in the "backdrop" as a consequence - of course, also the "angles" in between, where we stand in such a cycle-development ... 

Neptune and Eris do have a very interesting and kind of "sharp" relationship/geometry within their orbits - suggesting that their "backdrop" isn't one that goes "un-noticed".... 

Eris talks about reality - she's an "eye opener" by using sometimes truly disturbing situations to reveal the truth about situations but mainly about ourselves... Yet, she also tries to bring us revelations from the past, from the collective past and beyond (in this she works also "for" Sedna). 

Neptune is about transcending, gaining clarity, dreams, etc. - yet, he also offers the imagination needed to build "new" - that also means new pathways within as he rules the "waters" which includes "cell water".... 

Usually we can't gain access to the teachings or benefits of the outer planets until we have transcended the "veils of Neptune" at least a little bit (a little "crack" is sufficient) - if we're trapped within the 3D matrix realm and therefore ruled by some kind of fears, worries, lack and so on, we usually live the "not so nice" attributes of Neptune and other planets.... 

When we now talk about them "together" in collaboration, it seems truly as being very deep, very profound and very changing.... 

diagram of the orbits of the inner planets and some of the outer planets including Eris

An overview of the planets orbits - including some of the minor planets (no asteroids).
You can see the "cutting through" orbit of Eris very well here and that she comes not further "in" than the orbit of Neptune... 

(sidereal heliocentric data)


SN: 16 Cancer 57   NN: 16 Capricorn 57

most South: Libra and most North: Aries

Perihelion: 21 Pisces 47  Aphelion: 21 Virgo 47 


SN: 11 Libra  and NN: 11 Aries 

most South: Capricorn - most North: Cancer 

Perihelion: 19 Virgo    Aphelion: 19 Pisces 

note their crosses being in the same signs - just "reversed"... 

Neptune and Eris conjunction wheel by Fran Arnet

The data of the currently active cycle:

07.08.1848  conjunction     8°12’0”   Aquarius

03.12.2022  330 degrees   29°10’30” Aquarius-Pisces

actually both in the constellation Pisces... 


07.12.2037  conjunction    2°27’36”   Aries

near the star Torculari of Pisces       


Cycle Neptune Eris 1848 with interpretation from powerpoint presentation by Fran Arnet

History and more

As you can see on the conjunction wheel further up, I have started there with the year 278 BC.  That 278BC conjunction took place in a time where the vernal point was shifting away from the constellation Aries (not sign) towards the constellation Pisces, therefore a bridging time and a slow shift of energies. 
The second conjunction in 92BC happened in the middle of "cluster years" as I call them - a maybe 20 to 30 years period within which several long term cycles re-start. Beside that, the vernal point reached in ca. 110BC the constellation Pisces star Alrischa (the knot where the two fishes are connected). 

As we know, in our known history we get lists upon lists of wars and battles - it's of course an indicator of many shifts of the powers and controls. Yet, I would like to see more about the arts, sciences and philosophies that do more reflect that actual thinking and belief systems of the people within their cultures. I will concentrate on the Western world as that's where I'm coming from.

With the death of Alexander "the Great" in 323 BC an era came to an end - major changes and shifts occurred - it was the birth of the "Hellenistic age", which is usually timed as from 323 to 31 BC, which means for Egypt the "Ptolemaic time" and the founding of Alexandria and it's later famous library (ca. 295 or 285 BC founded). 
Even during the time of the Alexandrian library, a center for cultural and scientific exchange, Athens kept its leading role as philosophical center in the Mediterranean world with the "schools" of Plato and Aristotle . 
Yet, it was Aristotle himself who has tutored Alexander the Great, therefore the influences are clear.

There were new "schools" of thought founded though - one of influence was also Epicurus (ca. 341 to 270 BC) - he had an already pretty "logic" way of talking about things we nowadays call "fractality" (including "multiverses" or at least "other worlds") and was aware of an atom not being the smallest "thing" and a "void" that must exist (Aristotle similar) and he was thinking about a phenomena that we call gravity. In spirituality, psychology and ethics he had a very different approach than others of his time and one that as viewed from now, pretty "influential". He describes the "Soul" as something like very fine structured "atoms" and that gives "consciousness" to the body and because it's "fineness" or "delicateness" it can't survive outside a body and therefore can't survive the death of a body. 
What Epicurus describes as the soul, many others including Aristotle called the "emotional body".

Euclid of Alexandria (ca. 325 to 265 BC) was a Greek mathematician and often called the "Father of Geometry". His works had influence for over 2000 years and are still "used" nowadays (the hypophysis). When it came to philosophy, it's said that he followed the school of Plato and it seems, that he had gone further in the studies and geometrically "formed" the Platonic solids. 

Archimedes of Syracuse (ca. 287 to 212 BC) was also a Greek mathematician but also astronomer, engineer and inventor. Some of his works are still in use today and he's often referred to as the "Father of mathematics and mathematical physics. Archimedes also studied at Alexandria and became Friends with leading scientists of this time there but spent most of his life in Sicily. It's said that he was often so absorbed in his works that he forgot to eat or to bath (I can totally relate to that, lol). It's also said that he did invented devices with which he could identify the position and motions of the Sun, Moon and Planets. Most famous he's though about his principles about "floating bodies" and the Archimedes' screw, which is a mechanism to get water from a lower to an upper level and this mechanism is still used nowadays. 

Hipparchus of Nicea (ca. 190 to 120 BC) a famous Astronomer and also mathematician etc. He's the one credited for the first observations and calculations about the precession of the equinoxes and furthermore started to predict placements. 

Philosophy and art of course did also flourish, yet, after the reigns of Ptolemy I and II the Alexandria library as well as academy did become difficult to live at or even enter as the scholarly degree didn't matter anymore and instead there were "head librarians" at work who had no scientific background nor written anything but were either in favorable positions in politics or military etc. 
A decline occurred. 

Many more famous people did enter the scenes of course but with philosophy, ethics and similar themes there was more the style of "writing about" what the schools of Plato and Aristotle and others were exactly meaning and there have been some themes that were "evolving" but not as creative and new anymore. 

Much had shifted to be "physical science" but as explained with these few examples there were really astonishing discoveries and inventions made, forming a "foundation" on which we continued to build.

The Greek did themselves perceive as being democratic - they had elites, the aristocrats but with the more or less freedom of speech and travel, which made it possible for all the arts and sciences to flourish.  
Yet, they were also able to act like a "mob" - when they felt someone to be not "safe", they would simply trial and maybe even execute.... 

Wherever fear is ruling, people often forget their own ethics and that's on all levels, may that now be a physical, psychological threat or one to belief system or to mind set....  

We though know today that many of the "wonders created" have been at least partly known to much older civilizations whom had  probably knowledge and abilities "we" had already forgotten about in those "newer" times.... 
We know the Roman civilization adopted a lot of the religious, philosophical and of course practical inventions from the Hellenistic period. The stay of Julius Caesar in Alexandria did bring those times to a sudden end with at least parts of the library burnt and even it probably existed on, it's "height" had already declined before.

All of the declines were already predicted by much "older" scholars, philosophers and writers such as Hesiod and Homer (about 8th century BC) - they themselves may have studied in Heliopolis (Egypt). However, in those ancient times studying was probably a more oral and practical training style as writing as we know now was just brought to Europe by men as Hesiod and Homer.

Yet, there's a lot preserved in stone, in cuneiform and other arts (worldwide) - we just need to "re-learn" how to read without reading.... the energies are still there and the beauty is, we not even need to be physically present... 

I'm absolutely certain, that phenomena like the precession of the equinoxes and maybe other of the earth cycles like the obliquity and eccentricity were already known to very ancient cultures and probably civilizations long "buried" but about to surface again at least in our awareness and memory. 
Yet - we're not back then - we're now and have other possibilities to "re-construct" the knowledge - we can work together as we All are holding pieces but not to live that cycle again or those civilizations again but to make it "better" - for us to become a "galactic species" that can look others straight in the eye, even though we're like the little children that have to learn a lot... 

References: Wikipedia, Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, University of Colorado Boulder, Historischer Bildatlas Orbis Verlag, Heilbrunn timeline of art history, Archimedes - World History Encyclopedia

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