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The Saturn - Pluto 33 years Dance


Heliocentric sidereal Astrology – a different viewpoint and perspective

as the galactic connections become integrated to our physical home of incarnate life

Fantastic and wondrous our lives, yet by far not all there is….


The Saturn and Pluto cycle discussed in "live updated mode" ...

Conjunction 10th of January 2020

Next conjunction in November 2053

The Saturn - Pluto cycle reaches first Novile 40°

(Pluto image compilation from NASA site and Saturn's south pole "eye" by NASA/JPL)


The players...

Saturn is about authority, structures, and order - not only material structures (like our skeleton/ body or buildings) but also about societal structures, political structures and structures of our inner life… other key words are commitment, responsibility and to mature… He reminds us, that we build our structures ourselves and need to take on the responsibility in order to live our sovereignty….   


Pluto speaks about transformation, the process of death and rebirth and therefore he’s very powerful. Pluto as the “gate-keeper” of the inner-world, can bring us insights – the realization of our inner beauty and power – this realization is transformative, in which way though, is totally up to us…. He's also about power, he's also about the misuse of that - just like nuclear power can be used in various ways…

As also some other cycles (I’m by far not finish yet), I have studied the cycles of Saturn and Pluto over some bigger time periods and found some fascinating pattern and ongoing processes between the Two…

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A short recap about their conjunction in sidereal Sagittarius


It was the “bell ringing” for total transformational and restructuring times. Not only on the levels of politics, economy, finances, society in general but a deep going “rebirth” of the own personal structures within – a reformation of power…

This means also a personal, individual maturation – often such happens with a lot of “chaos” at times, but once “ordered” things change and flow differently…

It might be very “eye opening”, a new inner order that takes place. It might start as simple as to “listen” to the own intuition and knowing instead of information given by others etc.



Obvious such deep and holistic “re-birth” isn’t going from one day to the other, but is described in a process of many steps… and it might be, even so we see chaos at first, that we may soon see first manifestations of it, in our personal inner and outer worlds as well as in our “shared reality”… it’s a process that is in some ways ongoing for a long time, same time though can be “right now” for some (whenever that “right now” is)… 



In numerology the 9 stands for a completion – we can see here, the completion of a step which though also means same time a start into the next step.

There’s also the connection to the “3,6,9” of course or 3 times a Grandtrine (a trinity of trinities) – it’s though also an initiating energy in the sense of “understanding leads to the next step”.



The 9 is especially important for Saturn and Pluto because of their cycle geometry – they complete 8 conjunctions “within” and the 9th becomes the 1…


In this sense it’s true for every pair, that the Novile is important but same time its also a specific Saturn and Pluto theme aspect.

AND it’s also a theme for the Earth-Mars conjunction geometry. They also meet 8 times within and a 9th time to complete the Octagram and that 9 becomes 1…


A funny thing here:

Pluto has been considered the 9th planet up to 2006, when he became the “king” of the outer planets… the TNO also called the “trans Neptunian objects”, minor planets etc. – there’s now a “class” of planets called the “Plutinos”, meaning they’re in a specific orbital relationship with Pluto, well and Neptune…

Saturn though is the 6th planet and shows a hexagonal geometry at his northpole – also interesting to note is here, that an Octagon “flattened” can look like a Hexagon.

And please note, it’s Earth who actually holds the 3rd position…

Funny thing is, the 8th planet is Neptune…


The chart with details - the Novile between Saturn and Pluto


Saturn at 14°54’30” sidereal Aquarius and Pluto at 4°54’30” sidereal Capricorn


Saturn and Pluto (with Venus and Mars) circled in red.

Their aspects lined in purple/violet color.

The triple conjunction of Pluto, Mars and Venus is an integral part here.


Heliocentric sidereal Astrology chart about the Novile aspect of the Saturn-Pluto cycle

The Three are in a trine aspect with Sedna in earlier Taurus and in sesquiquadrate (135° - an Octagram angle) with the Juno- Orcus conjunction.

The 3 are also in a square with Haumea in earlier sidereal Libra.


Saturn is beside the Novile also in the Quintile with Jupiter and almost with Uranus. Furthermore, Saturn is also in a Quincunx (150°) with Makemake near Diadem of Coma.

“To those of you, who read my Eris book, please note the placement of Makemake with Diadem and what that might indicate….”



The placements of Saturn and Pluto


Saturn stands near the star Ekkhysis of Aquarius (lambda Aquarii) and Pluto stands in a “nowhere land” area, with only one “catalogued” star nearby - the star 4 Capricorni (Flamsteed).


The stars of the Aquarian Urn, Saturn passes along for the next months seem all to be huge, orange and red giant stars and some of them even in the “asymptotic giant branch” AGB state. We’re dealing here with highly evolved stars, they have long passed the state of hydrogen fusing, even the helium fusing and some might be in the carbon fusing state or about to enter that…

Well – I think we could call them “the Elders”.

North of Saturn and Aquarius, there’s the winged horse Pegasus and south (which is his direction) he’s going towards the Phoenix, even so Saturn doesn’t travel this south, it’s nevertheless a fitting mythical picture…



For Pluto it’s a “transitioning phase” there, a region with many stars but “unknown”… with that “4 Capricorni” star that is yellow-orange (early stage of orange) but same time a Giant, which in itself sounds kind of fitting…

North of Pluto there’s the eagle Aquila gliding through the heavens, with his eye Altair focused, while in the south (he’s also leading there and much further than Saturn) there’s the constellation Indus, the Shaman or Native…


Conclusions about the “Novile”


As we’re dealing with quite an entanglement – and bigger cycles than just a 40° angle in a cycle, we may have to look at this from a bit a bigger “perspective”.


What I see is the possibility of a “quantum jump” in this sense – or at least to understand some “old stories” on the personal as well as on the levels of bloodlines, societies, global or further…


If we truly understand our “heritage” in this sense, when we can see the natural cycles in everything and their works (if we now like an effect or not), we may appreciate the “brilliance” without judgment and lay the foundation to go beyond.


There’s something called genetics and there’s something called epigenetics – and this word means “above” genetics, so we truly have the capability to go much beyond that… and that’s even true on the physical level…


It’s just, that we need to use our “creative mind”, the imagination, the dreams – THAT space within us where we’re totally free, where we can allow ourselves “whatever”…

The power of imagination is “boundless” and within everyone…

If you could create a movie for example – no limit of budget, no limit of “physics” or anything – really the only thing you add is story, idea… how would it go???

Giggles – since you read this, how many ideas float through your mind?

What do the stories you create tell you about yourself??


Much Love to you All,


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Saturn – Pluto it started in January 2020 (again)

Their last conjunction took place on 10th of January 2020 heliocentric and on 12th geocentric… maybe some of you remember….

Beside this, today (December Solstice 2021) is also the “anniversary” of the Jupiter – Saturn conjunction of which I use the photo I took for my posts and thumbnail…. A beautiful reminder 😊

Even so those conjunctions are always unique we kind of “forget” about them after a short while when only few people keep on talking about and as I’m obviously one of Those, I would like to go back to Saturn and Pluto and explain their significance still today and until their next meeting in November 2053.

When Planets have a “Dance” together, they kind of form “patterns” and so over time form “cycles within cycles within cycles” (Russian Dolls). Saturn and Pluto meet every 33 to 38 years and then also form a kind of 230 years cycle but also a bigger one of roughly 2500 years….

Their conjunction took place just in between their Southnodes….

So, now let us see what that chart of 10th of January 2020 said and where we stand now or will be on 10th of January 2022:

They met at 27°31’9” sid. Sagittarius conjoined by Chariklo, Ceres, Mercury and the Sun, with Earth in opposition and Venus and Eris forming a T-Square to that opposition…. Jupiter at 11° Sag approaching his Southnode and stood in the “face” of the Archer… There was also a Mars – Uranus opposition in Libra – Aries (similar as on 5th of December 2021)….

To me, as the Two met just between their Southnodes, means that they just have started (Pluto) and just about to start (Saturn) a new cycle together when it comes to “path of action” in the sense not only of their collaboration but maybe also about “themselves” and their paths… it means it’s in a sense what could be developed when integrating the “opposite” – so in this case Gemini – meaning for example the “professor” needs to find the right "tone"/words etc. so the students will understand what is already logic and easy to him/ her - this can of course go much further when we look at the theme of “manifestation” or principals of attraction etc. – we start something and may not yet know, where it will lead to exactly (best case scenario, we follow the heart and own values) but we’ll see the “fruits” hanging at the opposite point and then get a chance to “change”, if we don’t like what we see it to become, here is important to note, that “communication” is always a “two way street”, one is sending and another receiving and "sending back" again…

Gemini's star Wasat, talks about putting the pieces/ information together for better collaboration and to produce something “workable”/ functional.

As an axis it means the theme is the same but just on different “poles” so to speak and therefore in constant “exchange”, which is on the Gemini-Sag axis even more emphasized on than in other “signs”/constellations…

We get a bit of challenge/stress through Eris and Venus which can help to “activate” that axis – either way of course – the “professor” can remain stubborn or can start to “adjust” a bit (integrate).

What is reality?? Is there “one reality”?? In some ways yes, and in some ways no – let’s say there’s a mountain and there’s a lake and both have been there for hundreds of years but they both may have changed a bit over time…. One person may go to the mountain from the lake-side and another person from the other side, so they will perceive that mountain very differently and a person 500 years ago will again have perceived it on either side very differently as well…. One person will later talk about all the beautiful butterflies there and another one about all the different shades of purple flowers on the way and another one about how steep the way was (and next time it might be “alternated”)….

So, it seems clear that the values and the focus does “define the perception of reality” thus the own personal reality, which doesn’t necessarily mean THE reality….. We become a “bigger picture” of this lake and mountain when all these people share their information together and I’m sure we have All often experienced such situations….

We have this phenomena in any group (big or small) but also within the own life – we see many similar themes from different angles/experiences and get a “bigger picture”…. We become also more understanding for Others because we may have “been there” already – maybe not exactly same but we can “relate”….

It’s through this “bigger picture” of “reality” that we can transform towards new “paths of action”, new systems, new definitions that serve smoothly (coherent), that are “workable”/functional….

Southnodes always include “discernment” – a “spring cleaning” so to speak – we decide what is “promising”/worth to store, to pursue etc. but also what is blocking the “flow” or the “drain”…. of course, in that area of Sagittarius, the theme of "resonance" is added - so we also decide according what "resonates" and that's more like a "feeling" (the heart).... Furthermore, Sagittarius of course talks about our "higher Self", higher views, ideals and intentions...

As we know about the principles of “as above, so below”, resonance and more, we also know, that this doesn’t only apply to our “outer world” but also to our “non physical” realms and our inner, personal structures/systems…

We have many ways of perceiving/senses and many of us know, they’re going way further than commonly “accepted”… but fact is we gain information through our whole body, the senses, intuition and through “telepathy”, downloads, connecting with “spirit” or however else but of course also through our heart…. We have an “information lab” within ourselves that does “exceed” that of “direct Human interaction” which is meant in an additional sense…

On 10th of January 2022 we will be just 2 years into this good 33 years cycle, so we’re just 17° into this new cycle, which means, we’re just like babies – we just started to experience the “New” with having ideas about it but not yet grasp it fully…. Within the planetary theme and placement of the conjunction we see a theme, an intention that brings something new on an “existential level” but with the past still “present” and that “New” (whatever that means individually) need to be allowed to unfold by letting go of the past (to leave those “patterns” behind)….

It’s like when you have always been going camping and now decide to go to a luxury hotel for a change – you will pack many different things then when go camping – I mean, what are you going to do with a small gas cooker at the luxury hotel?? Cooking in the lobby-garden… well, it might be fun to see how the people around would react though, giggles….

It involves a lot of “let it be”, allowing but also focus and strength…. Saturn stands near the star Dorsum of Capricorn which is that more “open”/public part of Capricorn part that has just started… so an openness maybe not only to share but also to accept “different” from self as “valuable”….

It’s also a kind of “witnessing” energy – observing in a way but, as Saturn also stands in this last square with Uranus, it’s important to use the “neutrality” of Uranus… discerning yes, but without judgments – just like going to toilet, we do it to get rid of things without any further judgment…

Pluto stands in very early Capricorn giving emphasis to "higher views", focus, detail and "vibration" but as a build from/onto the high ideals and intentions set with the conjunction in late Sagittarius - it's like putting those into "test" and planning - in a more "solitary" way in the meaning that we're talking more about the "inner structures" of anything, including the personal/individual but also of "corporates" (can also be within and/or smaller groups as families etc.)….

In this chart we also see Mercury approaching Uranus over the head of Cetus (Aries) but also Venus in conjunction with Earth in opposition to Juno at Solar conjunction…. Earth of course again near the star Wasat (the middle) of Gemini… which talks about bringing pieces together in collaboration to produce “flow”, something workable/functioning….

Beside that, there’s also a Grand Trine between Saturn with Ceres (nourishment) and Hygiea (health and hygiene) of both I have talked a lot already last year, as they do play a role for quite some time… When we nourish us according to what we want to achieve (any kind of “information” so also media, people, food) and also keep hygiene (also in the meaning of focus to task, not getting distracted too much etc.)

The first 30° angle will be exact on 12th of March 2023… then we will start to put some more “action” to the theme… it will be more “push through” – just the next step in the “evolutionary” cycle… just like learning to stand comes before walking….

Saturn and Pluto will meet again in 2053 at the Urn of Aquarius – “flow”…. But see, that will be quite some time after “full flowering” and also harvest… 180 degrees (opposition) will be in May 2036.... "harvest"/manifestation/birth with the 240 degrees in October 2041....

And remember – it starts in the small within – we have to bring the “New” through ourselves, our Being, shining and living it and manifesting it….

Much Love to you All,


important related cycles:

Saturn - Uranus

Saturn - Jupiter

Neptune, Chiron and Eris are involved as well

a lot of entanglement.....

for example, when the Jupiter - Saturn cycle becomes 30 degrees exact, then Jupiter also enters the "pre-conjunction" phase to Neptune...

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